This week’s episode was twenty years in the making!  John tracks down the head Doc on his back surgeries and takes a deep dive into life as a pain doc and how they help those of us with serious chronic pain.  You’ll want him on your side when you are dealing with all that we pain warrior’s  deal with daily. He is very impassioned about his role in helping us move from patient to person. You’ll learn the backstory behind the biblical parable of “Pick up your own mat and Walk” and why it applies to me and you everyday.  Enjoy!