Following on last week’s show with Josh Cutler and his The Day Hospital book, we talk with an old friend who has spent her life coaching and helping people in need. Marianne Harms,has helped people with mental health issues through therapy and coaching for decades. Her work has been key in couples counseling, and those who hurt both mentally and physically. She specializes in helping people gain skills and tools for moving themselves forward and in the theme of the show, provides roadmaps to getting better. Enjoy.