A movie so intense Jon and Steven had to see it and talk about SPOILERS in person! They discuss Matt Reeves’ new take on the Dark Knight and how it both honors the character’s legacy and moves away from tired tropes. Why is it the closest to the comics yet? How does the darkest Batman movie yet present a theme of hope? And how does it stand up to the altar of Nolan? Plus, have you had enough Joker yet?